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Postby Cyclonefan on Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:47 am

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Spiffed-up Botanical Center envisioned
New gardens, exhibits and a classroom are included in a $10.5 million plan.

By JASON CLAYWORTH
REGISTER STAFF WRITER


January 29, 2007
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Officials today will announce a $10.5 million expansion plan they hope will finally pull the Des Moines Botanical Center out of a financial spiral caused by weak attendance.

Des Moines Water Works, which manages the 27-year-old center, will join with other groups and businesses, including Iowa State University Extension, on a $1 million classroom building, outdoor demonstration gardens, and educational and environmental exhibits.

The plan, which requires City Council approval, will be discussed today at a special public meeting at the downtown Armory Building.

"We think we've got a pretty good feel of how to get this thing where we need to go," said L.D. McMullen, the water department's general manager.

Water Works would raise the money, largely through private donations, he said. Property taxpayers will probably not be asked to contribute, but it's possible that revenue from a proposed sales tax increase for Polk, Dallas and Warren counties could be used, McMullen said. Voters will consider the tax increase in July.

The center, at 909 Robert D. Ray Drive, was once a popular spot, with attendance of more than 200,000 per year. Admissions have tailed off dramatically in recent years, in part because of what some have deemed stagnant displays.

The Water Works, which is owned by the city but operates independently, took over the Botanical Center in 2004 after city leaders threatened to close it over an $851,645 deficit that taxpayers covered the previous year. Water officials were confident they could shrink the deficit and keep the attraction open.

Water customers shelled out roughly $600,000 to soak up red ink the first year, followed by another $450,000 in 2005. The 2006 loss is expected to be about $150,000.

Water Works has spent thousands of dollars on Botanical Center improvements, such as repairs to the dome and updates to rooms used for meetings or social gatherings.

Room rentals increased 41 percent in 2005, which brought in more revenue. The rise in rentals is credited as the major reason for the reduction in losses last year.

Doug Gulling, president of Friends of the Botanical Center, a volunteer group, said residents' concern and media reports on the center's plight have helped create new enthusiasm for the attraction.

"There haven't been many changes to the Botanical Center in its lifetime," Gulling said. "I think it's time to update it and make it more relative to Iowa."

The proposal to be made public today will in many ways follow a 2004 plan drawn up by volunteers who called for a new entrance and expanded cafe and gift shop.

The biggest structural change would be a 7,500-square-foot building to be used largely by Iowa State University Extension for classrooms. Extension would pay roughly $100,000 a year in a long-term lease; ultimately, that money would pay for the construction.

If elected officials and organizers reach an accord, construction could begin this year on the new building, which would be on the south side of the center. Extension leases space at 5201 N.E. 14th St. The organization would like to move to the Botanical Center by August 2008.

"The Botanical Center is a gem. It just needs a little bit of a face-lift, and I hope my organization plays a part in that face-lift," said Jeanine Baldwin, Polk County's Extension education director.

City Councilwoman Christine Hensley said closing the Botanical Center would be a bad move for the city, especially in light of the downtown activity being generated by construction of the Principal Riverwalk.

The Brenton Ice Skating Plaza, which is part of the riverwalk, opened late last year about four blocks from the Botanical Center. If updated, the center would work well with the riverwalk, Hensley said.

McMullen said the improvements would take place as money becomes available. The project would probably take about five years, he said, with additional improvements made once the $10.5 million plan is complete.

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Postby DMRyan on Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:13 pm

At least this is something that was identified as being a recipient of any dollars generated by Project Destiny. The fathers of this proposal had better start identifying more by July.

The only thing that seemed like a given in this article was new digs for an ISU Extension Office. That will hardly bring the visitors flocking to the center. Major improvements are defintely needed at the Botanical Center, and I hope a major overhaul can become a reality. Doing small things piecemeal is a band aid for an aging attraction. I'm curious to see what kind of impact the new riverfront could possibly have in driving more visitors to the center. I think the biggest thing that could be done is to overhaul the "exhibits" inside to freshen them up and give people a view of something new than the same stuff I viewed on an elementary school field trip 16 years ago.
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Re: Spiffed-up Botanical Center envisioned

Postby genevieve on Fri May 07, 2010 9:56 am

It looks like there is another plan to improve the Botanical Center. It looks like a group of local notables want to sign a long term lease and run the Botanical Center (sounds similar to the deal that happened with the Blank Park Zoo) They also want to raise 10 million dollars to revamp the Botanical Center. DM Register has an article: http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20100507/NEWS/5070357/Nonprofit-hopes-to-raise-10-million-to-revamp-Botanical-Center

This could be a great addition to the area and really add something to the Riverwalk.
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Re: Spiffed-up Botanical Center envisioned

Postby hawk61401 on Fri May 07, 2010 10:12 am

Exactly what the riverwalk needs. We need a big ticket item down there. Plazas and pedestrian bridges are an integral part but this could be something that people travel to see.

I hope this isn't one of those big grandiose plans that never happens
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Re: Spiffed-up Botanical Center envisioned

Postby DMRyan on Thu May 13, 2010 9:39 pm

I'm hopeful that enough funds are raised to put this garden plan into play since we really don't have a large signature public garden here. Hopefully this could someday be a draw akin to Reiman Gardens in Ames if the cards are played right. If you walk along the riverfront near the Botanical Center now, there's already a few neat series of gardens that can hopefully be implmented into the master plan for this larger garden development. It's a little rough around the edges due to poor maintenance, but there are good bones in place to build on a larger garden. Spend some time in the little evergreen garden on the riverfront, it's really kind of neat and an escape from the rest of the downtown.

I would envision a larger Asian-influenced or Japanese garden to take up the currently ratty dead space north of the Asian Pavillion. There isn't much width to create a large garden on the riverfront, but it could certainly be neat to see it sneak along a good section of the riverfront north of the Armory Building.
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Re: Spiffed-up Botanical Center envisioned

Postby Young DSM Social Club on Fri May 14, 2010 3:17 pm

Good idea on Reiman ... this could be a real gem for downtown. The location is superb to tie into all the exciting things going on downtown.
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Re: Spiffed-up Botanical Center envisioned

Postby Mototail on Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:23 am

http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/ ... aul-plans/


Public gets closer look at Des Moines Botanical Center overhaul plans


The nonprofit’s pitch could spare the botanical center from folding. The city’s financial condition leaves it in no shape to operate the botanical center.


There's many great notes in this story on what their plans are for the garden. I'd really like to see this project go through with the non-profits as the last time I was in there it wasn't much to "water" over. I think this would make the downtown area a much bigger draw to people during the summer because of the connectivity of the Riverwalk and the JAW Riverboat that operates near there. The Riverboat operator has plans to build a docking and gathering center near the area as well just up the river.
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Re: Spiffed-up Botanical Center envisioned

Postby DMRyan on Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:15 am

I'm ready for this organization to get a website up and running and get some renderings out there to the public. Nothing helps sell the case for raising money better than good visuals.

Between this and the gardens planned on the World Food Prize site, downtown is certainly getting greener.
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Re: Spiffed-up Botanical Center envisioned

Postby DMRyan on Sun Apr 10, 2011 1:43 pm

Found a very early conceptual rendering of this project. Robert D. Ray Drive would be closed off at the Botanical Center parking lot. I love the idea of having a much better outdoor botanical garden, but feel we're hamstringing any future expansion that a garden like this could take on by cramming it in here. Even if the riverbank were cleaned up and utilized to the fullest, there just isn't much room between the levee and the Botanical Center. Perhaps future expansions could go south down the riverfront, into the Jim Muto recreation area, tie in with an Asian-themed garden at the Asian Pavillion, and even expand eastward into the waste of space Riverpoint flex offices in the future.

Sorry for the poor quality, but this is just a "Vision Plan" rendering at this point anyway.

Rendering by Hoerr Schaudt Landscape Architects and The Friends of the Botanical Center:

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Re: Spiffed-up Botanical Center envisioned

Postby wmjindsm on Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:20 pm

DuPont (Pioneer HiBred) is giving the Bontanical Center $3 Million.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/articl ... cal-Center
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Re: Spiffed-up Botanical Center envisioned

Postby DMRyan on Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:14 pm

Good to hear! Hopefully, a few other corporate citizens can step up to the plate to get some movement on this, and get a new attraction downtown. A big part of this will be how well the gardens can be maintained. We do well as a commuunity to build amenities like this, but I don't feel there's enough done for the long term upkeep (Nollen Plaza, Robert D. Ray Asian Pavillions, current Botantical Center).
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Re: Spiffed-up Botanical Center envisioned

Postby hawk61401 on Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:04 am

DMRyan wrote:Good to hear! Hopefully, a few other corporate citizens can step up to the plate to get some movement on this, and get a new attraction downtown. A big part of this will be how well the gardens can be maintained. We do well as a commuunity to build amenities like this, but I don't feel there's enough done for the long term upkeep (Nollen Plaza, Robert D. Ray Asian Pavillions, current Botantical Center).


Just like in selling and buying a house it's location, location, location. In 1979 of course no one envisioned the riverwalk and the land where it was built was the cheapest. But if it and WFA had been built closer to downtown, who knows what would have happened. Aaaah, if attractions could have been built within reasonable walking distance from hotels and restaurants. Instead, you have to trek up a mile or so to the Botanical Center from downtown. In the late 70's there were the visionaries who thought about dining out and going to the theater. Therefore, the civic center was built near Court Ave and we know the success of that. Imagine if the Civic Center had been built on the old site of the KRNT Theater.
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Re: Spiffed-up Botanical Center envisioned

Postby CJG on Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:15 am

I spent a little time in and around the botanical center this weekend. It really is a jewel for the city with a great group of people with a lot of knowledge about plants and trees. I hope that the gardens nearer the river will be safe from future flooding periods. Also, I like the idea of the boat launch in the proposal. But it seems awfully close to the darn dam for pleasure boats and kayaks.
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Re: Spiffed-up Botanical Center envisioned

Postby dogbo on Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:13 am

Here's a report from WOITV5 on the upcoming renovation project:

http://www.myabc5.com/story/17269287/ds ... Id=6883109
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Re: Spiffed-up Botanical Center envisioned

Postby DMRyan on Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:20 pm

Looks like they intend to go north towards University Avenue with the gardens rather than south towards the Asian Pavillion. I hope that enough room is left to the south of I-235 to expand these gardens in the future, because they'll be all out of land if they don't. This is crammed between the river, a 50 ft. incline on what once a river "bluff", and the University Avenue Bridge. There is the Jim Muto Recreation Area just north of the Asian Gardens that is essentially worthless right now. This can provide a little expansion room, but I hope that an acre or two of the River Hills Business Park can be set aside when this whole area gets redeveloped someday.

Still nothing posted on the Botanical Center website showcasing the plans for this project...
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Postby DMRyan on Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:30 pm

Here's a link to access the new masterplan for the Botanical Center overhaul and new public gardens. Looks like the riverfront trail will be located directly adjacent to the river levy instead of along the current Robert D. Ray Drive. This looks great, but again, I hope that additional land south of I-235 can be saved for expansions of this garden. Also, anything that can be done to dress up the nasty look of the trail underpass under I-235 is sorely needed.

http://www.dmgov.org/Government/Boards/ ... -04-09.pdf
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Postby DMRyan on Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:01 pm

The early phases of this project should get under way soon. The Dorrian trail along East River Drive will be relocated closer to the riverbank. This shoiuld cause the removal of many of the existing trees, gardens and paths that are currently in the area.

Anyone interested in seeing these gardens for one last time should get down there soon. They're a little beat up and not well maintained, but I always thought the zig-zagged evergreen garden area down there was pretty neat.
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Postby wmjindsm on Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:23 am

Vision Iowa has granted the Botanical Center almost $1 Million. They are getting close to their fundraising goal.

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Re: Spiffed-up Botanical Center envisioned

Postby dogbo on Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:40 am

DMRyan wrote:The early phases of this project should get under way soon. The Dorrian trail along East River Drive will be relocated closer to the riverbank. This shoiuld cause the removal of many of the existing trees, gardens and paths that are currently in the area.

Anyone interested in seeing these gardens for one last time should get down there soon. They're a little beat up and not well maintained, but I always thought the zig-zagged evergreen garden area down there was pretty neat.


They are indeed now working on this area. A lot of things are ripped up right now.
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Postby DMRyan on Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:19 pm

The Riverwalk Cafe inside of the Botanical Center is closing down for the renovation of the botanical center, and will reopen as a new restaurant once completed. Sounds like the bot center will be closed for the most of the summer during the peak constrution time.

Workers are already reconfiguring utilities, removing the existing trail and plantings along the riverfront, and pouring the new rec trail in it's slightly shifted location. Things should really get going next spring.
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Re: Spiffed-up Botanical Center envisioned

Postby Emil on Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:00 pm

the Botanical Center is officially transferring from being managed by the DM Water Works to being managed by a non-profit.

http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/ ... ip/article
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Re: Spiffed-up Botanical Center envisioned

Postby DMRyan on Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:53 am

Between the future improvements to the botanical center, the riverwalk, the World Food Prize grounds, a new Nollen Plaza, you have a real movement towards some pretty great landscape architecture that Des Moines can be proud of. If only the Pappajohn Sculpture Park and Western Gateway Park could be more heavily landscaped and less sparse...
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