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Re: Principal Riverwalk

Postby DMRyan on Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:41 pm

The KCCI news at 10 tonight reports that the steel for the ped bridge should be arriving in late April. The entire project now has a price tag of over $75 million and is set for a 2011 completion date provided that continued federal funding comes through. According to their report, nearly the entire west side of the riverwalk will be under construction this year, including the Court Avenue Plaza/Kiosk area and most of the trails and promenade south of Grand Avenue.
The project has been 90% funded so far.

Here's a few new renderings of what's being labeled as the West Bank from the Principal Riverwalk site.
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Re: Principal Riverwalk

Postby Better Life dude on Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:44 am

That is good news. :)
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Re: Principal Riverwalk

Postby DMRyan on Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:18 am

Here's the video link that shows some new graphics of the riverwalk for those interested:

http://www.kcci.com/video/19074556/index.html
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Re: Principal Riverwalk

Postby Better Life dude on Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:01 am

The pedestrian bridge walkways look different: Both lanes off to the south side instead of split right under the arch with space between them. Oh well - just get it done at this point!
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Re: Principal Riverwalk

Postby Ingersoll1978 on Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:01 am

Better Life dude wrote:The pedestrian bridge walkways look different: Both lanes off to the south side instead of split right under the arch with space between them. Oh well - just get it done at this point!


I think it's much cooler in the newest rendering. I hope that is what is built! :)
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Re: Principal Riverwalk

Postby dsmLA on Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:17 pm

This project is really going to fill out in the next two years. I can not wait!!!
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Re: Principal Riverwalk

Postby DMRyan on Sat Apr 18, 2009 6:09 pm

A couple of items from the upcoming City of DSM council agenda about the western portion of the riverwalk; construction is not supposed to start on the Walnut to Grand Avenue section until Fall 2009 and the portion of the riverwalk abutting the YMCA site will be deferred to a later date depending on the redevelopment of the site. With this project, what's another few months after years of delay?

This project will include construction on the river side of the levee on both blocks and the plaza on the land side between Walnut Street and Locust Street in front of the Old Library. The project construction includes the multi-purpose trail, floodwall, irrigation and lighting, plaza and promenade pavers. Construction of this project will begin in the fall of 2009 and will be completed within one year. Construction of the plaza and promenade adjacent to the YMCA will be deferred, pending the proposed redevelopment of that property.
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Re: Principal Riverwalk

Postby dogbo on Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:40 am

I've been wondering about that. If that redevelopment is done rightof the Y site is done correctly, there should be a restaurant/bar/wtih large outdoor patio that will face the river. This will need to coordinate with the river walk somehow.
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Re: Principal Riverwalk

Postby DMRyan on Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:07 pm

No steel arriving on site yet, but the work crews finally showed up today to start moving cranes around and perhaps bringing in more construction equipment. Hopefully, it won't be much longer to see some type of activity on the ped bridge.
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Re: Principal Riverwalk

Postby Better Life dude on Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:08 am

Finally. Yeh :!:
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Re: Principal Riverwalk

Postby Mulder.DSM on Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:43 am

Does any one know who is in charge of the marketing window display for the Principal Riverwalk in the skywalk area of the Equitable Building?

The Principal Riverwalk sign fell down last week and is laying on it's side in the display window and needs to get hung back up.

I have no idea who is responsible for those windows to tell them about.
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Re: Principal Riverwalk

Postby spacebetween on Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:00 pm

Mulder.DSM wrote:Does any one know who is in charge of the marketing window display for the Principal Riverwalk in the skywalk area of the Equitable Building?

The Principal Riverwalk sign fell down last week and is laying on it's side in the display window and needs to get hung back up.

I have no idea who is responsible for those windows to tell them about.


My guess would be the DCA or the management co for Equitable. Reach out to Amy Baker at the DCA, she will know. Let me know if you need her email...
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Re: Principal Riverwalk

Postby IowaNomad on Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:31 am

DMRyan wrote:No steel arriving on site yet, but the work crews finally showed up today to start moving cranes around and perhaps bringing in more construction equipment. Hopefully, it won't be much longer to see some type of activity on the ped bridge.


Read today the steel beams are scheduled to arrive in Des Moines by May 1.
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Re: Principal Riverwalk

Postby Des Moineser on Wed May 13, 2009 3:29 pm

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No real progress, however, it appears there is finally some steel on the site.
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Re: Principal Riverwalk

Postby DMRyan on Wed May 13, 2009 3:44 pm

Thanks for the photos Des Moineser. Those large green pieces of steel are actually the floating buoys to hold the cranes that will hoist the bridge. Some of them have already been placed in the water along the shore.
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Re: Principal Riverwalk

Postby Better Life dude on Wed May 13, 2009 7:02 pm

Those "temporary" steel tower supports look like a monument to futility.
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Re: Principal Riverwalk

Postby Mastermind on Fri May 29, 2009 2:54 pm

Have they taken the month of May off on the pedestrian bridge? This thing is taking forever...
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Re: Principal Riverwalk

Postby hawk61401 on Fri May 29, 2009 4:58 pm

The following quote from the DMR of September 2008 ..

An Indiana company constructing the bridge is behind, so instead of a mid-November grand opening, completion has been pushed back to early next spring.


From KCII of March 2009
The KCCI news at 10 tonight reports that the steel for the ped bridge should be arriving in late April


Early next spring has passed, summer is 3 weeks away. The Indiana company should appreciate the lucrative contract they were given. Are you still behind? We're getting impatient for the postcard-producing, piece of engineering excellence.

Maybe in 2009 ....

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Re: Principal Riverwalk

Postby GoVerticalDSM on Fri May 29, 2009 6:07 pm

What's up with these morons? Sounds like we're getting taken to the cleaners.
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Re: Principal Riverwalk

Postby Better Life dude on Fri May 29, 2009 6:16 pm

I have no inside information, just my opinion: This has to be a money issue somewhere in the pipeline. This bridge was designed/engineered by Arup - the worldwide company that engineered the Bejing Olympic stadium and Olympic aquatic center. Can't be a problem with the design. Even if there was a manufacturing problem, that would have been fixed about 12 months ago. I think in this case the local media is covering up the real story or they are being misled. It's ok if the Principal Riverwalk is behind in funding - we get that in this current economy. A little more transparency and forthrightness by the responsible parties would serve everyone well.

I've been thinking this for many months now - glad I'm venting. If enough of us tout the lack-of-money conspiracy theory, then maybe the truth would come out.
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Re: Principal Riverwalk

Postby mirage1 on Fri May 29, 2009 6:23 pm

I agree with BLD on this one.....it is a "follow the money" issue.

A smart bet might be a "major" sponsor of the riverwalk with recent large layoffs and now associated with wanting TARP money does not want all of the bad press associated with what some might consider "fluff" spending. Some of those budgets, while not cut, might have been delayed quietly. My opinion only.
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Re: Principal Riverwalk

Postby hawk61401 on Fri May 29, 2009 7:54 pm

Ok, now I am going into panic mode. This thing which currently looks like a gigantic erector set might look like this for months or worse? This would be the last thing that Des Moines needs. Agree with BLd, something smells and it ain't the Des Moines river. Smells like a money issue.

As Bld says, if the local media is covering up the story or being misled, that doesn't say much about our local watchdogs. It's only to make the situation worse. Surely, others have doubts and questions besides members of this forum.
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Re: Principal Riverwalk

Postby Better Life dude on Fri May 29, 2009 9:02 pm

I agree with BLD on this one.....it is a "follow the money" issue.

See... I knew we could find common ground somewhere Mirage1. I guess we should next get together so I can buy you a round of your favorite beverage. :)
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Re: Principal Riverwalk

Postby Ingersoll1978 on Fri May 29, 2009 9:04 pm

I dunno...I'm not worried about it. If there was a major problem, it would be reported by the local media. I doubt the media is in cahoots with Principal to protect their "image." If that was the case, there wouldn't be no stories about layoffs or other negative press. All these projects take patience...and this one is demanding a lot of it!
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Re: Principal Riverwalk

Postby Mastermind on Fri May 29, 2009 9:31 pm

To put this in perspective, the bids for the bridge went out in 2006. In December 2006 Wellmark announced they were building downtown...
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Re: Principal Riverwalk

Postby dogbo on Fri May 29, 2009 10:25 pm

Ingersoll1978 wrote:I dunno...I'm not worried about it. If there was a major problem, it would be reported by the local media. I doubt the media is in cahoots with Principal to protect their "image." If that was the case, there wouldn't be no stories about layoffs or other negative press. All these projects take patience...and this one is demanding a lot of it!


I'm with you Ingersoll. Can we pls leave the conspiracy theories to Oliver Stone?
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Re: Principal Riverwalk

Postby Better Life dude on Fri May 29, 2009 11:10 pm

dogbo wrote:
Ingersoll1978 wrote:I dunno...I'm not worried about it. If there was a major problem, it would be reported by the local media. I doubt the media is in cahoots with Principal to protect their "image." If that was the case, there wouldn't be no stories about layoffs or other negative press. All these projects take patience...and this one is demanding a lot of it!


I'm with you Ingersoll. Can we pls leave the conspiracy theories to Oliver Stone?

No. I'm sticking with my theory. It's no big deal if there's a $$$ problem - or whatever the problem is. Just be more forthcoming about the real cause for the delays.
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Re: Principal Riverwalk

Postby DMRyan on Sat May 30, 2009 7:06 am

Why would the media or anyone else involved with this project besides Principal care if it were reported that the bridge needed more money? I'm really failing to draw a connection at this grasp at straws theory. It's not like Principal owns the riverwalk or is continiously chipping in more funds to see its completion. Principal has made their donation already, and now provides the leadership experience to keep things moving on the project--nothing more. It didn't give them a bad name when the scope/cost of the project grew by three times, with local leaders committed to lining up at the congressional trough every year to take back their piece of federal funding to see the completion of this project.

I'll ask the question of the head engineer for this project on Monday on what the status of the bridge is.
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Re: Principal Riverwalk

Postby Better Life dude on Sat May 30, 2009 8:31 am

I'll ask the question of the head engineer for this project on Monday on what the status of the bridge is.

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Re: Principal Riverwalk

Postby MrMafia on Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:48 am

I am twiddling my thumbs waiting for the answer as to when this is going to pick up again....
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