Ingersoll1978 wrote:About Aviva---I'm over them moving from Downtown. As I said before, they could have easily have relocated to Boston or another major metropolitan area.
kissjrj wrote:I know I've said this before, but I've seen people leave Jimmy John's sandwich shop in West Glen, get in their car, and drive to Target which is practically a stone's throw away. People will not walk. And, this idea that if we build everything closer together, people will stop driving etc etc is just ignoring reality. Now, some may want to change that reality, but the first step is to admit that the reality exists. West Glen is THE perfect example of an attempt to enforce pedestrianism by builders. The only time people are seen out walking is when they are getting into and out of their cars. (I don't speak for downtown, because I don't live or work there and haven't been there in over a year, I used the West Glen example because this is the development OUTSIDE downtown thread). We are not addicted to oil, we are addicted to cars. When the people see and want a change, they will let us all know. Enjoy the discussion.
dogbo wrote:Better Life dude wrote:If you're going to be working at Aviva in West Des Moines, you're going to drive your car to and from work and eat either at your cubicle or the company cafeteria or at the company provided picnic table outside your office building. That's the bottom line.
In theory, yes. But for all practical purposes, people like to get out of the office periodically for lunch, and in order to do that, these employees will need to jump in their cars and drive somewhere.
Anyway, to continue on. We keep hearing about all these incentives/mandates to make cars more energy efficient or giving taxes breaks for hybrids, etc....well here's a crazy idea -- how about we quit burying our heads in the sand and start using common sense to build our cities so people don't have to rely on cars for every stinking thing they do in their lives?!?!?!
I know this isn't practical (or is it?), but think about this. If all these sporadic office parks spread throughout the metro were consolidated downtown, we could probably start having high speed rail service to get people to and from work...and think about the amenities that we'd have (not to mention the incredible skyline) if we had that type of concentration of workers currently in downtown DSM? If we all had similar transportation needs to get and from work, the options would naturally become available and be very attractive. However, we don't because we're forced to work in all corners of the metro. The Aviva project only exasperates this problem.
Young DSM Social Club wrote:My company is in WDSM (old WDSM). It was downtown years ago. If we took a vote on where to relocate today, I bet 30% would say close to current location in WDSM or more north, 40% would say Jordan Creek, 10% would say Ankeny, and 10% would say downtown ...
RenovateDSM wrote:Young DSM Social Club wrote:My company is in WDSM (old WDSM). It was downtown years ago. If we took a vote on where to relocate today, I bet 30% would say close to current location in WDSM or more north, 40% would say Jordan Creek, 10% would say Ankeny, and 10% would say downtown ...
I'm curious about the reasoning behind those estimated percentages. If you were to hold a focus group with that question instead of a vote, what you you think each of the representatives would say to convince the others?
I have my guesses, but I'm interested in hearing your thoughts.
Young DSM Social Club wrote:First --- I would have to disagree that it is easier to get services in Jordan Creek. They don't even have a Walgreens, do they? Close to downtown we have Gateway Market, dry cleaners, pharmacies, etc., etc. ... I definitely think downtown and nearby locales currently have an edge on running errands. Maybe I am missing something that Jordan Creek has to offer ... ? Most of my after work errands don't involve shopping for clothes.
Keepgrowingdsm wrote:Amazing. . .I make a statement about the many benefits for all of Des Moines this project will create and it turns into a debate. What if they would have pulled out and built this campus let's say on the East Coast? This came very close to happening. Aviva didn't want to be downtown, they wanted to be in the suburbs. Do we tell them tough? I hope you agree the answer is no. Economic development projects have many benefits, even if they don't build a tall building. I just don't understand how this entire project c an be viewed as "Negative."
Godlasky was just as quiet about what all these initiatives might mean to Des Moines. Or West Des Moines, where this spring it began building a headquarters valued at between $135 million and $150 million.
The company has designed its headquarters - now under construction - to accommodate 1,500 people. That's two-thirds more than the approximate 900 who work for it now in several downtown buildings.
Burrow into the blueprints of its headquarters and you'll see drawings for a second tower that could house yet another 1,500.
Without some genuine optimism about the future, Godlasky said, "we wouldn't have gone to the work of designing this."
Aviva considers acquisition opportunities
By Karen Mracek â€¢ email@example.com â€¢ May 20, 2009
The chief executive officer of insurer Aviva PLC, whose U.S. operations are based in Des Moines, told Dow Jones he â€œexpects acquisition opportunities to start arising within the next six months as asset valuations become clearer.â€
In an interview with Dow Jones Newswires, Andrew Moss said the company will continue conserving cash to protect itself from continued financial market volatility, but will be looking at acquisition opportunities â€œas we go through the next six months.â€
The last major acquisition for the company came in 2006, when Aviva purchased AmerUS for $3.1 billion. When Aviva purchased Des Moines-based AmerUs, it predicted business would double by 2011. The company passed that goal in the fourth quarter of 2008.
â€œEqually, its always part of our job to scan the horizon for opportunities and my expectation is that in the course of next year we will see some opportunities. Thatâ€™s in the course of this year into next year,â€ Moss told Dow Jones.
mirage1 wrote:Wellmark's building would look really nice next to the Aviva building in West Des Moines.
(do we have to continue to have these "turf wars" posts?...can't we all be happy both of these companies chose the metro area for significant investment?)
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