DMRyan wrote:Definitely looks better, but still seems too dense. Not that having a grove of mature trees isn't a bad thing in a downtown, but how do you bring use to the area? At a minimum, how do they get the grass to grow under the tree canopy so it doesn't look like a neglected dirt patch?
A proposal to add â€œpeaceâ€ to the name of Nollen Plaza in downtown Des Moines will come before the City Council at todayâ€™s meeting.
Chet Guinn, a retired Methodist minister active in the peace community, is suggesting the change. Guinn said there are several reasons why the park should be renamed Nollen Peace Plaza.
IowaNomad wrote:More trees were thinned out over the weekend due to the wind. There are 7 to 10 on the ground or leaning significantly within the grass area.
dogbo wrote:Missed that. When you said all the trees to be removed, I assume you meant all the fallen trees.
No, you did mean all.
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mirage1 wrote:...still WAY WAY WAY too much concrete. The talk (and it seems ONLY talk) of the last public meeting was returning to an updated "Iowa Town Square" concept, yet the plans and presentation don't come close to approaching that way of thinking. One look at these plans and the only thing that comes to mind is the same thoughts you see when you look at all that is wrong with the Walnut Street design. While the new pictures show a lot of green, other angles (which are not shown in the above pictures) of the new plan show a proposal of about 80% nearly flat concrete/concrete block in this architect's plan for this space. Sad.
As has been mentioned before, it seems one of the most successful concepts of this is the town square in Washington, Iowa. It is an area of nearly exactly the same size. The Washington square park seems to have a terrific mix including a wonderful lighted "dancing" fountain in it, a very nice bandstand/events space (which could have small restrooms in it if needed in Nollen Plaza), and lots of grass with flower garden areas and great trees with plenty of seating. One of the most popular small parks in Iowa.
Why reinvent the wheel with this mostly concrete airport runway idea with hard concrete seating that has been presented? Why not go with what would really work for that space? This should NOT be this hard.
Des Moines Performing Arts hopes to start construction this summer, said spokesman Dale Stark. The group is still raising money (the goal is $11 million), but Stark declined to say how much has been raised.
In February 2011, the group unveiled plans to renovate the downtown park and add a shallow fountain and other features, including trees, to the now-bare park.
DES MOINES, Iowa â€”A plan to transform Nollen Plaza in downtown Des Moines is going before the Des Moines City Council Monday.
The council will vote on the design proposal and an economic development grant to help the Des Moines Performing Arts' project.
Some $8 million is planned for construction costs for the new interactive fountain, gardens, trees, walkways, lighting and seating. A $1 million budget is planned to add public art to the park.
Des Moines Performing Arts has already launched its fundraising campaign to pay for the project.
The council is expected to vote on a $400,000 economic development grant to be paid in four annual installments to help with construction and maintenance costs.
The new design for the park includes a large red carpet that extends from the west side of the park all the way to the Civic Center. The new interactive fountain would be located inside the west part of the red carpet area. A large LED-lighted interactive public art installation is also being proposed for the park.
The park's signature sculpture, the giant green umbrella, will remain at the corner of Locust and 3rd streets.
If all goes according to plan, construction would start next summer and continue into summer 2014.
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