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Re: allPlay/inPlay Des Moines

Postby dogbo on Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:17 pm

DMRyan wrote:I don't blame the closing of this on the Iowa Events Center, just pointing out that the only business you could say was spurred by the location of the IEC is now closed.

I noticed AllPlay sure spent some money on radio advertising. They always had ads on the few stations I listen to.


OK....gotcha. I was just noting that I don't think it is a black eye on redevelopment around Iowa Events Center as the business was poorly run, showcased, and marketed IMO. I'm not sure I ever heard their radio ads...obviously we're not listening to the same stuff.

You could speculate that Buzzard Billy's wouldn't be there now if the bones of a bar/restaurant weren't already in place per In-Play.
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Re: allPlay/inPlay Des Moines

Postby Emil on Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:44 am

DMRyan wrote:I don't blame the closing of this on the Iowa Events Center, just pointing out that the only business you could say was spurred by the location of the IEC is now closed.

I noticed AllPlay sure spent some money on radio advertising. They always had ads on the few stations I listen to.


Arenas, of course, are not good at sparking economic development. The fact that an arena without a big sports occupant struggled more shouldn't be surprising.

I do think the All Play management must have sucked to some extent--- Buzzard Billy's seems to be doing well (it did have a strong brand coming in), but the bar-grills that All Play had (The Stadium, Fanatics) both failed before they went outside.
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Re: allPlay/inPlay Des Moines

Postby econboy on Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:20 am

It's an arcade business in 2012. Most people are playing video games at home or on mobile devices now. Granted there were some bigger 'group game' type things you could do there but those types of things are not a novelty anymore. 25 years ago this would have been a major success.
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Re: allPlay/inPlay Des Moines

Postby wmjindsm on Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:41 am

But I'm curious nationally how chains like Dave and Busters are doing?
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Re: allPlay/inPlay Des Moines

Postby SFO2DSM on Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:54 am

wmjindsm wrote:But I'm curious nationally how chains like Dave and Busters are doing?

I was hoping to have found more positive news: http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/10/04/dave-busters-calls-off-its-i-p-o/
The company has reported annual losses for three of its four last fiscal years, including posting a $7 million loss for the 12 months that ended Jan 29.

Oak Hill purchased the company from another buyout firm, Wellspring Capital Management, two years ago for $570 million.
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Re: allPlay/inPlay Des Moines

Postby wmjindsm on Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:26 am

Oak Hill purchased the company from another buyout firm, Wellspring Capital Management, two years ago for $570 million.


The story comes full circle for me. I work for WHO-TV which is operated by Local TV LLC which is owned by Oak Hill which owns Dave & Busters!
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Re: allPlay/inPlay Des Moines

Postby 4th&Court on Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:15 pm

This failure was a long time coming.

We hadn't been in there in about a year, but the last 3-4 times we visited, more than half of the games we attempted to play were broken or malfunctioning in one way or another. In many cases, this wasn't apparent until you had already scanned your card and been charged for the play. Staff was extremely sparse, so stopping someone every time this happened would be tedious. Many games had physically broken controllers and no sign that they were attempting to fix them. They were just up and running as if nothing was wrong, despite being unplayable.

I agree that this place became WAY too kid-oriented. It's ironic because early on, they closed the entire bottom floor, which had been specifically dedicated to the 3-8 year old set. You would have thought they'd have figured out that given the overall nature of downtown entertainment, they were likely to do much better focusing on adults.

Dave and Buster's succeeds because they have figured that out. The places are clean, the games all work (or have signs indicating they broke yesterday and parts are on order), and MANY of the games are entertaining for adults and children alike. There are even games that really only entertain adults, which All Play had virtually none of. At one time, it appeared that the most popular attraction in the place was the mini bowling downstairs. They eliminated that after the first year or so, and the upstairs mini bowling seemed to be restricted to use for private parties only. The one time we walked into that room, we were immediately accosted by an employee who demanded to know what we were doing.

On another note, the climbing wall was closed the majority of the time. This was the only attraction that would primarily attract adults.

All Play was another great idea for downtown Des Moines, and another very poorly executed idea. There have been so many of these in recent years. When are people going to start listening to their customers and potential customers?
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Re: allPlay/inPlay Des Moines

Postby DMRyan on Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:05 pm

I don't have many details on the user, but it sounds like a gym/fitness business may move into a portion of the AllPlay space. Maybe they kept the indoor climbing wall intact to use for this new business?
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Re: allPlay/inPlay Des Moines

Postby MusicMan on Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:08 am

DMRyan wrote:I don't have many details on the user, but it sounds like a gym/fitness business may move into a portion of the AllPlay space. Maybe they kept the indoor climbing wall intact to use for this new business?


Yeah, it is a Crossfit Gym. Same owners of the Crossfit in Waukee I think.
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Re: allPlay/inPlay Des Moines

Postby dogbo on Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:35 pm

MusicMan wrote:
DMRyan wrote:I don't have many details on the user, but it sounds like a gym/fitness business may move into a portion of the AllPlay space. Maybe they kept the indoor climbing wall intact to use for this new business?


Yeah, it is a Crossfit Gym. Same owners of the Crossfit in Waukee I think.


I'm surprised there is additional demand for this downtown with Spartan, F/X, and now a new Y coming online in a few years (not to mention it seems many of the housing options downtown have their own gyms/equipment available onsite.
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Re: allPlay/inPlay Des Moines

Postby Ingersoll1978 on Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:45 pm

Don't forget Kosama and several palates and yoga studios. Good luck to them!
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